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About
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The Family - Marriage and Children
The National Men's Council of Ireland, in keeping with the Irish
Constitution, extols the virtue and value of the two-parent,
Marriage-based Family as the foundation of society.
We hold that Marriage can only be the union of one man and one woman and is intended to be life-long.
We trust in God, in rationality, in Bunreacht Na hÉireann and
the Rule of Law. We are not a partisan organisation like the national
Womens Council. We do not advocate for the interests of men against
women. Our motto is:
"Doing what men have always done - protecting their Families, Faith and Freedom"
Our primary aim is to stabilise and foster a civilised society. We
believe for that to be achieved we need to strengthen the Family
founded on Marriage by encouraging Spouses to understand the rights and
duties that apply to them within their Marriage in which they agreed to
love each other, "for better, for worse; for richer, for poorer; in
sickness and in health; till the day I die'.
The most important duties of Spouses are
(i) that they work together in making and keeping decisions - for the
benefit of the Family as a whole - over matters that affect the assets
that have been built up during the Marriage, the most precious of these
being their children and
(ii) that they remain at all times open to the Reconciliation of any
differences that may arise between them that threaten the stability and
unity of the Family.
Most Families achieve these duties and cohabit for many years despite
occasions where the "wear and tear" of Family life bring stresses and
strains to the relationship.
The National Mens Council of Ireland and Mothers at Home have set up
the Family Rights and Responsibilities Institute of Ireland. As well as
carrying out this vital research work the National Mens Council of
Ireland also operate a Family Help and Marriage Reconciliation Group.
This is in the form of a self-help group where members are expected to
give of themselves as well as receive expert support and encouragement.
Through this work we are able to explain to Spouses how the law
supports fidelity and protects the innocent Spouse and enables them to
continue with their Family life in situations where the other spouse
has abandoned their duties and are no longer open to Reconciliation.
However this work can only be done in the context of a society which is being guided in the right direction.
The State has an important role to play in this as shown by the limitations and undertakings imposed on it by the Constitution,
"The State recognises the Family as the natural primary and fundamental
unit group of Society, and as a moral institution possessing
inalienable and imprescriptible rights, antecedent and superior to all
positive law. The State, therefore, guarantees to protect the Family in
its constitution and authority, as the necessary basis of social order
and as indispensable to the welfare of the Nation and the State. The
State pledges itself to guard with special care the institution of
Marriage, on which the Family is founded, and to protect it against
attack."
Sadly we are finding that the State is under the influence of those who
wish to free the State of its obligations to serve the Family founded
on Marriage and believe that the State should be all-powerful and be
able to dictate to all the citizens including Families despite the
Constitution clearly showing that the Family founded on Marriage is
superior in law to the State.
Many of the members of our Family Help and Marriage Reconciliation
Group come to us when they find their school, the HSE or the courts
refusing to acknowledge their authority over their children and their
Family life.
Because of this the National Men's Council of Ireland are called to
protect Families, schools, and places of worship against these unlawful
forces that threaten them, including biased, misandrist and offensive
media and attacks on religious and parental liberty. In keeping with
this role we monitor, on behalf of the Family men and women of Ireland,
legislative changes and state social policy for its impact on the
Family based on Marriage and especially on children.
We offer the resource of the vast amount of experience and research
that have accumulated by the Council and by the individual members. We
can assist members of the Family Help and Marriage Reconciliation Group
by helping them with the paper-work if they wish to pursue their own
case or by the Council writing directly to the Third Party - whether
that is a school, a court, the HSE or a government department - to ask
them to explain why they persist in breaking the law and to point out
that their actions will not be tolerated.
We do not receive any State funding for our Family Help and Marriage
Reconciliation Group for the simple reason that it is government policy
to not want Families in difficulty to be Reconciled. The evidence shows
that the State benefits by every Family that it can force into
separation or divorce. Overwhelmingly the evidence shows that the legal
system and its practitioners benefit by every Family that it can force
into separation or divorce.
The evidence shows that the State benefits by every Family it is
allowed to disrespect the authority of in relation to its children - in
the areas of schooling, health, housing, passports and social welfare
payments, etc.
In doing this work we find ourselves unearthing corruption and
cover-ups by organs of the State where they are involved in
impermissible attacks on the Family. The extent to which the State is
prepared to go is shown by the fact that several Husbands have been
imprisoned simply because they wanted to remain faithful to their
Marriage and to the Covenant they made with God. In every case the
State has been shown to have acted unlawfully and the men have been
released and the institution of Marriage strengthened by their courage.
The bottom line is that we have God and Truth on our side AND the Rule
of Law! We always act with the law and by doing this we constantly
expose the corrupt practices being carried out by government
departments and the courts.
If the stability and unity
of your Family is under threat our Family Help and Marriage
Reconciliation Group offers an opportunity to get the support and
encouragement you need to repel and recover from the unwarranted
attacks on the authority and unity of your Marriage that the
Constitution guarantees.
God bless, Roger Eldridge
Chairman, National Mens Council of Ireland
Executive Director, Family Rights and Responsibilities Institute of Ireland
National Office: Knockvicar, Boyle, Co. Roscommon
Website: www.family-men.com Email:
familymen@eircom.net
Telephones: 00353 (0)
7196-67138
00353 (0) 86-8180146
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The Law of the Family founded on Marriage in Ireland
The position of husbands as head of the Family and the
position in law of his Wife and children as his dependents is
outlined in his essay, "The constitutional protection of
parental rights" by William Duncan in the Report of the
Constitutional Review Group, 1996. In it he refers the reader
to Katherine O'Donovan, Senior Lecturer in Law at the
University of Kent, where she states in her book, "Sexual
Divisions in Law",
"Within the modern bureaucratic state the nuclear
Family of Husband, Wife and their children is treated as a
unit. The head and public representative of this unit is the
Husband, whose Wife and children are legally constituted his
dependants, not only economically but also because they are
subject to his orders. His role is to control what goes on
within the Family in private."
We feel the need to state this fact publicly simply because
information disseminated widely by the Government and the
Legal Aid Board, and latterly in a Supreme Court Judgment by
Lord Chief Justice John Murray, insists on proliferating the
deceit that within the married Family Mothers and Fathers have
equal status and that the Father is not the head of the Family
unit.
The Legal Aid Board, in their explanatory leaflets and
www.Oasis, the government's web-based information site even go
as far as to assert that the married Mother and Father hold
the right and duty of Custody over their children jointly.
This is plainly not true and those responsible for the
spreading of this lie must be held accountable.
In
law in Ireland, even today a married Father is held liable for the
Custody of the children of his Marriage. He exercises his Custodial
role in the protection of his Family - in practice through the act of
providing for and maintaining his Family and conserving the family
resources. He is entrusted to Husband the Family like a farmer husbands
his stock - he manages with prudence and frugality.
In
law the married Mother does not have the duty of Custody of the
children of the Family but rather has the complementary right
acknowledged in the Constitution to nurture the children of the Family,
safe in the protection afforded her by her Husband. Being a Guardian
with inalienable rights she is of course entitled to apply for Custody
if her Husband has misconducted himself so as to have failed in
his duty.
It
is very strange that no-one ever talks about what this duty entails and
how it differs from the duty and rights that a Guardian has. In the
Supreme Court in B. v. B. [1975] I.R. 54 SC’, O’Dalaigh
C.J. is quoted as stating,
“It only remains to repeat that the court's order in respect of
the custody of the children is interlocutory in character; moreover,
the court order does not diminish the duty of the parents to be
concerned about the welfare and education of their children. The
parents, whatever their own difficulties and differences, should be
concerned to remain in closest consultation in all that concerns the
welfare of the children. Specifically, the parents should seek
agreement with regard to their plans for the future education of their
children to avoid the necessity of invoking the direction of the
court”
In the same case, Walsh J. is quoted as stating,
“I agree with the Chief Justice when he says that the provisions
of s. 11 also underline that any order as to the custody of an infant,
or any other order it may make affecting the welfare of the infant
under that section, is necessarily only interlocutory in character
because circumstances may change from time to time
The change of circumstances may be due to the current position of the
parent or parents or the growing up of the child and the changes which
the passage of time may bring about, not merely in the relationship of
the parents to one another but in their relationship to the child, and
the change which may be brought about in the fortunes or health or
opportunities of any of the parties concerned. In a case such as this
where one is dealing with young children, it appears to me that, in the
absence of agreement between the parents from time to time as to what
the welfare of the child requires, the court invoked under S. 11 of the
Act may have to exercise something in the nature of a continuous
supervision during the infancy of the child.”
As for how and where their children will be educated precedent, statue
and the Constitution recognise that the Mother and Father
share the right and duty to make such arrangements. Once an
agreement is reached neither parent can unilaterally change
it.
It
would appear from the above that the duty and 'right' of Custody
amounts to little more than, say the position of the Chairperson of a
committee of two! - made up of the Husband and Wife. Although,
theoretically the
chairperson - the Custodial parent - might have the deciding vote, as
anyone knows who has worked on a committee it often means that, for the
sake of keeping the committee happy and functioning, the chair would
often
have to sacrifice their own preference and compromise. When it comes to
sacrifice God
has chosen men to step forward so there is nothing sexist or
chauvinistic about the Husband being held to the Custodial role. It is
part of his 'social function'. He shows his love for his Family most
often by sacrificing the comfort of his home and the enjoyment of the
company of his Wife and children and working outside the home. His love
ironic and unseen. It is measured by his ability to bear the separation
he feels from his Family and to do work which is often dirty, dangerous
and unsocial but necessary to provide for the welfare of his Family.
This also explains why men care less about their own health than
everyone elses in the Family.
The
definition of "custody" is the "keeping and safe-keeping" so the role
also encompasses the duty of providing financially for the children.
This still
falls primarily to men. Even where the wife has been 'granted
Custody' legitimately - in the rare case where the Husband has
abandoned his Family duties - the law still expects him to provide
through maintenance
payments. Women are excused this duty within the Constitutional
provisions and we know of no situation where the Wife pays maintenance
for the
Husband and children even where she is the deserter.
We believe that knowledge offers the best hope for an end to Marriage breakdown which is
the real tragedy for children and for society.
In the matter of the welfare of children we believe, and
this is clearly shown by all the evidence, that what is best
for them is simply being reared by their two parents,
supported and respected by the state to share this onerous
task and our work is dedicated to ensuring that children are
conceived and remain within a Family unit with their two
committed parents.
We believe it is the role of the state to at all times
assist citizens to avail of the safeguards afforded them and
their children in Marriage as recognised in the Constitution.
This means that the primary focus of the Family Support Agency
must be to ensure reconciliation in cases of conflict between
Husband and Wife and to provide education and training,
supported by social welfare policies, which will ensure that
all young adults who intend to procreate are informed of the
benefits of Marriage.
Everyone must be told of the serious damage that is done to
children when their parents fail to honour their commitment to
each other and the children and stop acting in unison as one
flesh - ie together, preferably under one roof, with the children as their
principal focus.
We can not find evidence which shows a benefit to children
of supporting groups who merely demand that they, as parents,
have "CONTACT with their children!" We strongly
support Fathers who insist on "protecting and caring for
their children - all the time"
No amount of generating an 'equitable' outcome for parents
after separation is going to prevent the damage already done
to children, adults and society by the separation itself.
Our extensive inquiry into the law and outcomes for
children and their parents leads us to require:
- That Marriage be protected and defended from attack
because it offers to children and adults the best
arrangement for a satisfying stable Family life and
provides the elemental structure required for a civilised
society
- That fault in Marriage carries a penalty because
children hold their parents as role models
- That the practice of unlicensed procreation be
discouraged so as to encourage licensed procreation -
Marriage.
- That social policies, like tax and welfare codes, be
geared to promote and benefit stable Families with
children.
- That parents are respected as the primary educators of
their children with the state's function being confined to
facilitating the parent's role.
- That Custody, the duty a married Father is, in law, held
liable for is respected by the courts and by social policy
until the people decide otherwise by amending the
Constitution.
- That the Courts desist from improperly allowing and
encouraging married Mothers to apply for the Custody of
their children against a fit Husband. Wives do not have
the right of Custody of their children in these
circumstances and can not make a Section 11 (1)
application under the Guardianship of Infants Act, 1964
for Custody or to regulate their Husband's 'access.'. A
difference over Custody can not apply where only the
Father has the right. Similarly wives can not make an
application under Section 11(2a) under this Act as this
section is derived from the Jurisdiction of the Crown of
England and this can no longer be considered appropriate.
The claim made by the state that the Husband and Wife have
an equal right to the Custody of their children was considered
and rejected as being detrimental to family harmony as long
ago as 1925 when The Lord Chancellor, then of England and
Ireland, made clear the opposition to the idea of joint
stewardship of the married Family when he stated, "the
net result ... would be to substitute a legal for a domestic
forum in every household' and 'that to put Mothers on an equal
footing with Fathers in all matters concerning their children
would simply produce deadlock'
The notion of 'equality' within the Family is in urgent
need of public debate. Within society as a whole citizens have
the right to be treated equitably. However certain
organisations and institutions necessarily require a
hierarchical structure for their efficient and safe operation.
These include the management of a business, the administration
of a government, the running of a football team or the command
of a crew on board a ship.
It is patently naïve to suggest that these organisations
must exercise the strict adherence to the rules of equality.
What necessarily exists within them and also within the Family
are differences of social function where different levels of
authority are balanced with corresponding differences of
levels of liability and accountability.
If a Chief Executive makes the wrong decisions we sack him
not the Personnel Officer or Head of Research. If a football
team gets relegated we sack the manager, not his Physio or
Goalkeeper. If a ship founders on the rocks and the crew or
cargo are lost it is the Captain who we put on trial, not his
Bosun.
The married Family is arguably the most important
institution in society and its hierarchical structure is as
important and necessary as that in any corporation and
especially, when it comes to emergency decision-making in
these troubled times, like those made by the captain of a ship
in a storm,.
To continue the analogy, if there is confusion and conflict
by the crew in stormy seas and the crew is encouraged to
believe by the Ministry for Marine that it can disrespect the
orders of its captain and mutiny without reproach the ship
will doubtless flounder.
That is precisely what is being experienced in the Married
Family today. The state, as we have seen, is deceiving Mothers
into believing that there is no 'captain on board' yet the
state is at the same encouraging Mothers, through the Family
courts, to hold their Husband to account if there is Family
break-down.
The Husband, like the captain in his treatment from the
mutinous crew, is literally thrown overboard or 'made to walk
the plank.' Rather than reprimand the mutinous crew, the state
ensures that they are well rewarded. If the man thrown
overboard survives the stormy sea and manages to scramble his
way back to dry land he will find the courts waiting for him
to force him to continue making payments for the purchase of
the boat which he can no longer use and ordered to reward his
mutinous crew with the fruits of his labour for the rest of
his miserable life. It is no wonder that the suicide rate for
Fathers after they have been treated so cynically and unjustly
is eight times the rate for the rest of the population.
The real dishonesty of the feminist/socialist movement is that rather
than deal with the necessary hierarchical structure in the
married Family and debate whether, for instance, the Mother
should take over the position of being the accountable parent,
they have employed deceit and unscrupulous reports and false
allegations to poison the good name of Husbands and of
Marriage itself.
They intend to abolish Marriage all together and force
everyone to remain outside of any protected Family unit and
instead live as separate individuals who lack any support
structure from their immediate or extended families. Once in
this vulnerable condition the state can then force them to do
its will unopposed.
We believe that these revelations of the legal position of
men and women within Marriage that the National Men's Council
of Ireland have 'uncovered' must lead to an urgent debate
amongst every citizen of the country so we can decide what we
want to do with the information.
Our
first priority must be publish the names of the people who have
deceived us for so long and put them on trial for the crime of
corrupting public morality. This is important as it sets the moral tone
of the ensuing discussion as to what we do to safeguard our natural
right to found a Family and within the Family unit to have our
authority and constitution respected by the state as recognised in the
Constitution and in the European Convention on Human Rights.
The Constitutional Review Group delegated by the Taoiseach
to examine this issue must now take the lead and immediately
initiate an educational programme which will show, clearly and
without further deception the legal position that exists at
present within the married Family and the benefits that flow
from this for all the members of the Family and for the common
good of society.
Based on the new knowledge the People can then have a
thorough, searching and sober debate of the issues so they,
and not the state, can decide what changes they want to make,
if any, to the Constitutional protections of the Family
founded on Marriage.
Roger Eldridge,
Chairman. National Men's Council of
Ireland
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